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Jesus Christ this thread is bringing out the goons in Massive Godamn Quantities:
The OP:
A big flaming stink wrote:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL
Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."
All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.
For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.
"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."
Baghlan province is in the northeast, but Afghans say pedophilia is most prevalent among Pashtun men in the south. The Pashtun are Afghanistan's most important tribe. For centuries, the nation's leaders have been Pashtun.
President Hamid Karzai is Pashtun, from a village near Kandahar, and he has six brothers. So the natural question arises: Has anyone in the Karzai family been bacha baz? Two Afghans with close connections to the Karzai family told me they know that at least one family member and perhaps two were bacha baz. Afraid of retribution, both declined to be identified and would not be more specific for publication.
As for Karzai, an American who worked in and around his palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."
He added, "I didn't see Karzai with anyone. He was in his palace most of the time." He, too, declined to be identified.
In Kandahar, population about 500,000, and other towns, dance parties are a popular, often weekly, pastime. Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home. A recent State Department report called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."
So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?
Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.
"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."
Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure." Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are "unclean" and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli's team "how his wife could become pregnant," her report said. When that was explained, he "reacted with disgust" and asked, "How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?"
That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.
Addressing the loathsome mistreatment of Afghan women remains a primary goal for coalition governments, as it should be.
But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.
"There's no issue more horrifying and more deserving of our attention than this," Cardinalli said. "I'm continually haunted by what I saw."
As one boy, in tow of a man he called "my lord," told the Reuters reporter: "Once I grow up, I will be an owner, and I will have my own boys."
I'm not sure how current this is, but this is disgusting beyond belief at any time. I know everyone likes to go on what will happen to women if we pull out of Afghanistan, but what can be done if the culture is this entrenched into something as horrible as child rape?
Ok so the 'slimes we're slaughtering my the tens of thousands turn out to be pedophiles and rapists etc, let's check out what the goons have to say about these savage creatures:
Loretta Trampface wrote:Even if we could, it is their culture and their fight to go through, not ours. Even though most people would probably agree this is abhorrent, no one group of people has the right to tell all the people of the world what is right and wrong. That is something people have to come up with themselves.
It's their culture, damn it!!!!!EA Sports wrote:Here's a nice example of male sexuality warping to fit social norms. It's the same thing that happens to those guys that turn gay after serving a while for life in prison. The male sex drive will do whatever it can to be sated.
MY MALE SEXUALITY IS AT WARP FACTOR 2 MR. SULU SET A COURSE FOR THE NEAREST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!!! Loretta Trampface wrote:Yes, Team America #1 should have the right to storm whatever country or culture it feels like if they don't have the same ideals and moral beliefs as their own. I doubt anybody is going to defend the practice, I sure as hell don't, but at the same time that doesn't mean that any one group of people have the right to make and enforce moral choices for the entire planet.
MY WHITE AMERICAN MORAL CHOICES SHOUDLNT' BE FORCED ON THESE POOR AFGHANS WHO RAPE BOYSScrubber wrote:But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.
Do we know for sure that it's "destroying their lives"?
After all, if it's that common, how bad can the social stigma against the victims be?
God. Fucking. Damn.
Spitshine wrote:You can't exactly apply the First World mentality to this, as it's quite obviously a completely different country and society. As an American, it's appaling. But as a veteran of GWoT, I also understand that any demographic there should not be considered in the same ways of the equivalent demographic of our societies. That said, I'm not sure why people are so surprised - this phenomenon is prevalent all throughout world history.
Enough. Enough. I feel like that fat guy at the end of Apocalypse now...THE HORROR...THE HORROR..THE HORROR...
muslims, violent patriarchal misogynist clit chopping child rapists 
). So, why do goons bring these statistics up? Simple, so they can minimalize the evils taking place in a non-white country. Thats it. They AUTOMATICALLY choose the side of evil over good. They do this all the fucking time.
